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Sounds like Mithrun calling himself "Macha."

And it fits perfectly with these lines of the poem:

"Wave reaches the Pinnacle, and escape none can. Tarvos still remains with more cruelty to punish and destroy.
And with the turbulent destruction after the Wave. Only a void remains. From deep within the void arrives ████████.

Perhaps then the Wave is just a beginning as well."

Lily is using the poem and people to fulfill the role of the 'harbingers' - Lily is still a program. He's using what was already present in this world.

[threatmewted]

Great... then that means there's 6 more of these guys, too?

Here's the other stuff I found out:

-He wants to be angry, which is because he thinks he's a program now, I guess. But he's mostly angry at himself.
-Lily brought back his actual sister Lily. Misteaks crushed her windpipe with one hand. Now he hates himself and wants vengeance on himself, but doesn't know how to handle it.
-He thinks he's no different from the people of Naval Monte. And he knows his memories are going away, but he's okay with it because he won't need them to fulfill his purpose.

I don't know if it's important or not, but... When I told him I was leaving since he wasn't my friend anymore, he got really upset. He was throwing stuff at me as I left, but he never actually hit me.

I mean. I did say I was going to come back for him - for my real friend. But yeah.

[So that was fun.]

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[Well. That sucked. That definitely sucked!!!]

i think it means...there's something left in him despite what the programming says.


i made mithrun a book. he seemed happy with it, even though he's now macha.

i wonder if it helped

[threatmewted]

Who knows. I mean, apparently Fandaniel even tried attacking Lily at one point? But look at him now.

[insinning]

He's become the number one lily fan.

It doesn't bode well for what could happen to him...

[threatmewted]

Well, if he turns out to be another wave, we can't really be surprised.

[insinning]

no, we can't

[threatmewted]

This sucks.

Oh, wait.

Did you know about the secret area where they can hang out with Lily? Misteaks mentioned it a while back, but there was kind of a lot of other stuff going on.

[insinning]

dismal waning descent? or is it another place?

have you tried going?

[threatmewted]

That's the one. By the time he told me about it, it was already closed. He showed me how he can teleport there, though.

[insinning]

How?

[threatmewted]

I dunno, he just did? All I saw was him disappearing and then reappearing from my side.

Cubia gave them the ability to warp directly there since they can't just use the gates I guess.

[insinning]

maybe it's their cores? but then you would be able to teleport too

[threatmewted]

Maybe he gave them a special ability?

I guess the cores could be different, too.

[insinning]

Is there anyone else with a Lily core that will speak to you about him?

[threatmewted]

...Dunno. Don't think so.

[insinning]

What about Fandaniel? Are you two close in any way or...?

[threatmewted]

I have no idea anymore. He was digging at me for info on Zelkova's bracelet when the shield monsters showed up, and now he's a big Lily fan.

I'm not really sure what to make of it anymore.

[insinning]

I'd say Lily promised him something like Barrett, but it doesn't mean much now that we know Lily can replace memories entirely.

What did he want to know about your bracelet?

[threatmewted]

No idea. It was so early on, he might've just been scoping out Zelkova's people.

[insinning]

you're probably right

it's weird though

zelkova and lily are brothers, but they couldn't be any more different in how they've worked

[threatmewted]

Maybe it's got something to do with their original coding?

[insinning]

If Harald Hoerwick threw Cubia away, then Cuba didn't fulfill his intentions as an AI while Zelkova did. Zelkova has been helpful, but hands off, and not very communicative in a way that's easy to understand. Cubia talks a lot, but most of that seems to be unreliable and manipulative.

[threatmewted]

Almost like two sides of the same coin.

[insinning]

"One's own shadow', even.