( Most certainly not any near time after their previous conversation, but a reasonable enough amount of time one could have hit level 25 by. )
Since I said I'd report back to you: your advice has had some effect, I think. While sensory experience (ie, taste) remains dull on a global level, I'm a little more aware of, at least, the sensation of pain when it initially occurs, since most encounters in this game seem to be designed to trigger a pain response.
I'll continue experimenting and see how things go.
I think the experiences of pain here are more extravagant and more acute. For example, I don't generally experience electrocution or falling from abnormal heights in reality. I think the extremity of it provides a small shock to my brainwaves, if only for the initial recognition of sensation, and for a little while after.
Still, that's longer than how I feel when encountering more average sources of pain in reality.
I probably will find myself those situations in reality, in the future.
I think pain is useful to be aware of, so I'd like to experience more of it. I used to take for granted the fact that my body would tell me when to avoid it, but now I no longer have that instinct. If you receive a cut and don't notice the pain after a moment, the cut gets infected... Things like that prevent me from acting ambitiously.
( jk, he still acts ambitiously, but it just means he doesn't realize the physical consequences until it's too late, which is the problem. )
I think your perspective on pain is correct. My circumstances are unusual, but pain is something most people should maintain. Maybe more people would leave the toggle on if they could select the maximum extremity of pain they can experience.
In any case... It's fine. I do live alone, but my family hired a carer for me. He comes by regularly, but can't live here. Why?
It seems reasonable to want to play with it off. I also wouldn't recommend the more extreme forms of pain that exist in this game. IE, electrocution via Grand Electric allows you to experience the full extent of your skin boiling, bubbling, and your blood churning like a cauldron, without the consequence of actual death. I think most would rather just die, in that scenario. It feels like it lasts a very long time, even if the attack itself just lasts a moment or two.
No. I log all my experiences after runs and, barring that, every few hours. It's how I started to notice that I was becoming comparatively more conscious of nociception.
How has it been for you, to be subject to monster attacks? Do you not mind stings, cuts, and burns? Or are you too far from combat to be targeted?
im a steam gunner game says that steam gunners should be attacking from a distance do i want to though not really shooting them up close in the face is a lot more fun
when you experienced those death-like things did you not really care about how it felt personally apart from research reasons
"I don't want to get hurt." "I don't want to experience lingering pain." "I don't want to get scars." "I don't want permanent injury." "I don't want to leave someone behind." etc.
My only desire is recuperation. I won't do anything that would prevent my improvement, but I don't think much of anything that doesn't.
If the rush of killing things close range trumps your desire to avoid nociception, I can't imagine you have a healthy relationship with desire, either.
Probably not something you'd see in this game. An immersive virtual reality experience is most compatible with addictive and compulsive personality types, and people whose needs aren't being met in reality.
In a sense. A small level of discontent is acceptable. If you were content not eating, you wouldn't eat. If you were content alone, you wouldn't find a partner. I think those small, missing satisfactions add up to an "average," or healthy, level of desire.
People who are missing too much, or who can't obtain what they want, try to satisfy their urges with something else. A sense of accomplishment over hitting level cap in place of approval from their parents. A guild of users to run Explorations with in place of physical friends. Etc.
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Since I said I'd report back to you: your advice has had some effect, I think. While sensory experience (ie, taste) remains dull on a global level, I'm a little more aware of, at least, the sensation of pain when it initially occurs, since most encounters in this game seem to be designed to trigger a pain response.
I'll continue experimenting and see how things go.
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thats it????
actually wait
you can feel the pain better than irl??
i have so many questions
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Still, that's longer than how I feel when encountering more average sources of pain in reality.
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do you have any personal thoughts about it?
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I think pain is useful to be aware of, so I'd like to experience more of it. I used to take for granted the fact that my body would tell me when to avoid it, but now I no longer have that instinct. If you receive a cut and don't notice the pain after a moment, the cut gets infected... Things like that prevent me from acting ambitiously.
( jk, he still acts ambitiously, but it just means he doesn't realize the physical consequences until it's too late, which is the problem. )
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thats mostly why i still keep the pain sensor on
i dont want to have to get used to not feeling anything
bc i know itll be bad for me
this might sound invasive
and you dont have to answer if you dont wanna
but do you live alone??
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In any case... It's fine. I do live alone, but my family hired a carer for me. He comes by regularly, but can't live here. Why?
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pain is a great indicator for stuff
but nobody likes it
except masochists i guess
anyway
thats fine!
i was wondering if you had a caretaker or something for your needs
[ In short, he was kinda worried for a second. ]
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( Pause. Then sends follow up message: )
Were you worried about me?
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I CERTAINLY AM NOW
are you unconsciously traumatized
holy shit
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How has it been for you, to be subject to monster attacks? Do you not mind stings, cuts, and burns? Or are you too far from combat to be targeted?
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im a steam gunner
game says that steam gunners should be attacking from a distance
do i want to though
not really
shooting them up close in the face is a lot more fun
when you experienced those death-like things
did you not really care about how it felt personally
apart from research reasons
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"I don't want to get hurt."
"I don't want to experience lingering pain."
"I don't want to get scars."
"I don't want permanent injury."
"I don't want to leave someone behind."
etc.
My only desire is recuperation. I won't do anything that would prevent my improvement, but I don't think much of anything that doesn't.
If the rush of killing things close range trumps your desire to avoid nociception, I can't imagine you have a healthy relationship with desire, either.
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dont make me sound like a psycho.............
cmon man
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what IS a healthy relationship with desire then
[ No. ]
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If any of us were content, we wouldn't be online.
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doesnt that circle back to how people are never content
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People who are missing too much, or who can't obtain what they want, try to satisfy their urges with something else. A sense of accomplishment over hitting level cap in place of approval from their parents. A guild of users to run Explorations with in place of physical friends. Etc.
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[ other than the chance to commit violence, i guess ]
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( Assuming Oria even has one. Mithrun doesn't. Anyway, )
Do you feel you're missing something?
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i dont think so
im satisfied with my life as it is
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( He doesn't say this with well wishes so much as he says it matter-of-fact. Life is fickle. )
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thanks
anyway
pls stop dying
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