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[insinning]

yeah

he's not going to want to leave. he thinks if we take Fragment from CCCorp, she'll be able to exist, here.

but hani confirmed a few things:

Lily wants humans to choose him so he can stop being a mere shadow. He wants us to have everlasting happiness but suffering and despair elates him - and he wants us all to feel this way.

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He's constantly angry too. He said it's like there's a purpose to it that'll make sense, even if he hates it. Something about being angry and people being angry at him making sense?

Maybe that's the suffering part?

[insinning]

so

he's going to continue being angry, and continue to hurt people? And he'll hurt himself because of that...and the cycle continues.

"Everlasting happiness"

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Yeah...

I hate this.

[insinning]

Me too. I hate everything that's happening here. Lily wants us to stay. He wants us to choose him, so he can stop being a mere 'shadow'.

how do you convince a child that believes he's in the right that what he's doing is wrong?

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I'm not even sure it's possible.

Maybe if we could somehow rewrite his code? But would that even still count as "him?"

[insinning]

What makes him an advanced AI like Zelkova?

But even Hien wouldn't have that power as a head admin.

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Zelkova once told me it's possible people had access to remove or manipulate his memories. He didn't seem to believe it was likely, but...

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even zelkova?

it would explain why there are some things about fragment that he just doesn't seem to know

If they can manipulate data

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I tried to warn him, but he was really optimistic it would turn out okay.

[insinning]

he's probably been programmed not to worry about it.

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It's possible.

...

As a heads up, Misteaks lost a bunch more memories than most people I think. Might be the same with the others close to Lily, too.

It probably makes them easier for him to control.

[insinning]

I had a feeling but I didn't know how far it went

if you didn't have your memories

what kind of person do you think you would have become?

would you reject the person calling themselves your family?

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I don't even want to think about that.

[insinning]

yeah.

it was odd though

he really wanted me to be angry. he was interrogating me about it.

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I wonder if turning people into blank slates makes it easier for him to inject new personality traits or something?

Like deleting paragraphs out of an essay and rewriting them.

[Except it's just, you know.

Actual people's lives.]

Don't know why he'd want to get reactions out of US though.

Unless it's like, some kind of new AI learning shit?

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they were both trying to learn something from me. Mithrun, love. Barrett...anger? Hatred?

it matches, you know. the poem.

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Oh I hate that.

[insinning]

me too

they're like

programs now? or brainwashed to be convinced that's their only job

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I wonder if data draining Cubia does anything?

[insinning]

He probably has failsafes to protect himself by now. I wouldn't risk it yet.

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I can't believe I'm itching to use this thing now.

But for the record, I'll hold off.

I'm not that reckless.

[insinning]

maybe but, lily has a way of getting under people's skin.

please don't do anything to get yourself hurt. you'll make a lot of people sad.

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[>Doubt.]

I already said I wouldn't, okay?

I know better than to pick a fight I'm just going to lose.

If he has defenses, I'm screwed. If his bracelet holders are there, I'm screwed.

[insinning]

Just take me along if you plan on doing something.

i really wish i was able to get into programming. it feels like it would be really useful right about now.

but not even the head admin had power to override anything to do with lily.